Terry is joined by a pair of Under Review all-stars and all-star writers; Jason McCall and Brian Oliu! This was recorded moments after Trump's second impeachment and the second blockbuster trade of James Harden's career. Topics include both of those things, reflections on this college football season, the future of college sports beyond COVID-19, and a lot of focus on Rocky Balboa and the forthcoming chapbook What Shot Did You Ever Take; a poetry collaboration on boxing, masculinity, race, and humanity, through the lens of the Rocky film series by Jason McCall and Brian Oliu! 

If you're in a hurry, the writing-heavy part of the discussion gets going at around the 49:30 mark. ;)

Jason McCall is the author of A Man Ain’t Nothin (Pork Belly Press), Silver (Main Street Rag), I Can Explain (Finishing Line Press), Dear Hero, (Winner of the 2012 Marsh Hawk Press Poetry Prize) Mother, Less Child (co-Winner of the 2013 Paper Nautilus Vella Chapbook Prize), and Two-Face God (WordTech Editions). He is also the co-editor of the anthology It Was Written: Poetry Inspired by Hip-Hop. He holds an MFA from the University of Miami, and he is from the great state of Alabama, where he currently teaches at the University of North Alabama. Follow him on twitter @JasonMcCall4.

Brian Oliu teaches, writes, and fights out of Tuscaloosa, Alabama. His publications include three chapbooks and five full-length collections of nonfiction, ranging on topics from Craigslist Missed Connections, to computer viruses, to the arcade game NBA Jam. His newest book of essays, Body Drop: Meditations on Fandom and Pain in Professional Wrestling is forthcoming in 2021 by University of North Carolina Press. Follow Brian on Twitter @BrianOliu.

Read Jason's work in the Under Review HERE

Read Brian's work in the Under Review HERE and HERE